From jad@ckuxb.att.com Tue Dec 15 16:12:03 1992 Received: from att-out.att.com by css.itd.umich.edu (5.67/2.2) id AA11168; Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:12:01 -0500 Message-Id: <9212152112.AA11168@css.itd.umich.edu> From: jad@ckuxb.att.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:57 EST To: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu Status: O X-Status: Article 17406 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa From: jad@Turing.ORG (John DiNardo) Subject: Part 22, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Message-ID: <1992Nov16.161704.18600@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy.jfk Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia. Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:17:04 GMT Lines: 156 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) GARY NULL: My guests today are Jerry Policoff and Jim Marrs. We're going to come back to them in just a few moments. Jerry and Jim, we're going to take a ten-minute break because this week, and I believe next week, WBAI, this non-commercial station which is part of the Pacifica Radio Network, is in the midst of its fund-raising, and we use this opportunity three times a year to raise funds so that this station can continue. ..... Right now, we're doing our special report on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. It will continue until we've laid out all of the evidence that we have; each day another new piece of it. Now, let's go back to our main program. We're talking about the John Kennedy Assassination. On our conference phone right now -- and I appreciate their patience for standing by -- is Dr. Cyril Wecht, and also talking to us on another conference phone is David Lifton. Dr. Wecht, you've been listening patiently, and I thank you very much for your patience. Would you be kind enough to share with us your concern about the Warren Commission's findings and what you feel is the weak link in that evidence, and what you would propose we should be paying some attention to? CYRIL WECHT: Yes. Mr. Null, I'll just be able to make a brief statement because the time has run out for me at my end. I'm sorry. I would have enjoyed talking to you more. My concerns about the Warren Commission Report have been a matter of record. They're now going back some twenty-seven years. I believe I'm the only non-Government- affiliated forensic pathologist to have testified three times under oath in this matter before Federal District Court Judge Charles Hallock[sp] Jr. in Washington, D.C. in 1969, as a prelude to the Clay Shaw Trial in New Orleans, and before the Rockefeller Commission in 1975 ..... ..... [side A of tape ended] .... CIA clearance. Any staff member who was reviewing CIA documents, before he could leave, had to submit notes to the CIA for review. And basically, the course of the investigation changed. And all of a sudden the main suspect was Organized Crime. To put a historical context on this, only slightly before the House Assassinations Committee began its work, the [Sen. Frank] Church Committee had ended its work. And, although they didn't review whether or not there was a conspiracy, they did review the work of the FBI and the CIA in terms of their initial investigations of the assassination. And the result was a blistering indictment of their investigations; in fact, their non-investigations. The Church Committee made it very clear that J. Edgar Hoover had decided, immediately after the assassination, that Lee Harvey Oswald was the assassin. As the main investigative arm of the Warren Commission, that certiainly put handcuffs on the Warren Commission. The CIA was guilty of obfuscation at every turn, in terms of whether Oswald was a CIA agent, had ever worked for the CIA, his connections or his activities in Mexico City; in fact, whether that even was Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexio City, which is doubtful; his connections with Guy Bannister and various anti-Castro groups in New Orleans. All of that was TOTALLY obfuscated by the CIA. So, with that in its historical context, you have to really look at the FBI and the CIA as clearly, at least, suspects when you're investigating the Assassination. That was never done by [Chief Counsel] Blakey! Members of the staff [of the House Select Committee on Assassinations] who weren't cleared by the CIA were fired. Frankly, even at one point it was discovered that the autopsy photos and X-rays, which were in the files of the House Committee ..... somebody had broken into the room in which the autopsy photos and X-rays were kept, and had hurriedly made an examination of them, ripping some file folders in the process. A fingerprint examination revealed that the person who had broken in was the CIA liaison between the Committee and the CIA. That person was fired, but it didn't seem to have, in any way, raised any questions with Blakey in terms of the role of the CIA. GARY NULL: Isn't that a federal offense: breaking and entering, and tampering with information? CYRIL WECHT: I would certainly think so. GARY NULL: To my knowledge, no one from the CIA has EVER actually been put on trial for ANY crimes. Have they? CYRIL WECHT: No. Never. GARY NULL: So what we have is an agency that was repeatedly spying on its own citizens, interfering in special investigations -- and yet no one was calling the CIA to account. And, as a result, to this day, the CIA is still being able to do virtually anything that it wants. CYRIL WECHT: Yes. And, as a matter of fact, one of the Committee staffers told me that, back at the time that the Committee was investigating, one of the staffers basically put some hard questions to Blakey, in terms of his acceptance of anything that the CIA told him. He said, and this is a quote: "You don't think they would lie to me, do you? I've been working with these people for twenty years." That really puts into perspective where Blakey was coming from. GARY NULL: Alright. Le's go to a few other issues here. Let's take a look at the NBC documentary on Jim Garrison. CYRIL WECHT: Okay. I have to preface this by saying that I really think that there were a lot of things wrong with the Garrison Investigation, but it's really clear, from the outset, that the Government was VERY concerned about what was going on in New Orleans and about what was going to come out. We know that one of the things that the House Committee found, but didn't publish -- thanks to Mr. Blakey -- was that the CIA infiltrated eleven of its agents into Garrison's investigation. We know that the Justice Department was spoon-feeding information to Clay Shaw's lawyers. >From the beginning, the media, rather than taking an arms-length view and holding back to see what Garrison had .... the media was, almost from the beginning, almost prosecutorial in terms of the way they went after Garrison. NBC ran a one-hour documentary during prime-time. It was produced by Walter Sheridan, who had never been a journalist all of his life. He had been a private investigator. He had worked for the Kennedy family. We don't really know what his agenda was here, but he certainly was not a reporter. He was accused of bribing witnesses. The documentary, from beginning to end, was an incredible indictment of Garrison. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please assist in disseminating it by posting it to other bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass-media's thirty-year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo If you would like to hear Gary Null's program, broadcast by satellite from WBAI to a radio station in your locale, you can help to make it happen by calling 1(800) USA-1963.