From jad@ckuxb.att.com Tue Dec 15 15:59:54 1992 Received: from att-out.att.com by css.itd.umich.edu (5.67/2.2) id AA10903; Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:59:48 -0500 Message-Id: <9212152059.AA10903@css.itd.umich.edu> From: jad@ckuxb.att.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:54 EST To: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu Status: O X-Status: Article 18245 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.censorship,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa,misc.activism.progressive Path: cbnewsl!cbnewsk!att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ukma!mont!pencil.cs.missouri.edu!rich From: jad@Turing.ORG (John DiNardo) Subject: Part 28, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Message-ID: <1992Dec14.191408.8449@mont.cs.missouri.edu> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy.jfk Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: pencil.cs.missouri.edu Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:14:08 GMT Approved: map@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Lines: 139 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) JIM MARRS: And the local sheriff said that he knew both the son of the patrolman and Sullivan, so he felt like he was too close to the case. So he turned over the investigation of this particular incident to the local game warden. I've seen a copy of the report, and it's simply checked where it says: "Victim: Animal or Human." They checked "Human". And that was about the extent of the investigation. GARY NULL: Now, keep in mind that Sullivan was one of the former top heads of the FBI. In fact, outside of Hoover, he was probably the second most powerful member of the FBI. JIM MARRS: That's true. And he has stated some things that are very eye-opening. One of the reasons why he left the FBI is because he said that Hoover was concentrating more on inflated statistics and figures about the American Communist Party than he did on Organized Crime. GARY NULL: By the way, let's also remember this. It's up to the Public to decide whether they feel that this is coincidence or not: William Sullivan, Louis Nichols, Alan H. Belmont, James Caddigan, J.N. English, and Donald Kaylor[sp] ALL understood what was going on, or had information concerning the Kennedy Assassination. ALL died under mysterious circumstances in 1977. JIM MARRS: That's true. All within a period of a few months, and all BEFORE they could be [were about to be] brought to testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations. GARY NULL: And I think it stretches credulity to assume that all of these men from one organization -- all of whom were going to testify -- would all die accidentally in the ways that they did: one man being shot in his backyard in a suburban home; and the man who shot him said he thought that [Sullivan] was a deer. I mean, come on. Give us a break. Now the New York Times CERTAINLY would accept that logic and rationale, and we understand how the New York Times would accept that. And Dan Rather may accept that a man in his backyard looks like a deer. We don't! [JD: I've heard of a book (it might be "BETRAYAL") that states that Walter Cronkite and perhaps Dan Rather (I'm not sure) are among the people whom the CIA employs as journalistic "assets." Can anyone cite and quote such published accusations and their sources?] And we're offended by this kind of explanation that has gone on, and has NEVER been explored by the mass media in any major way. It's just been ACCEPTED that way. Now, let's go to the case of Richard Case Nagle and the registered letter to J. Edgar Hoover about the assassination. JIM MARRS: Yes. Richard Case Nagle may be the real Rosetta stone to understanding the assassination or, if not to understanding the assassination, certainly to understanding the role of Lee Harvey Oswald in this whole thing. Basically, Nagle was a decorated Korean War veteran who late became an agent for the Central Intelligence Agency, and eventually claimed to have ended up being a double-agent working for the Soviet KGB. He said that in mid-1963, his KGB superiors contacted him and said that they had become aware of a plot to kill President Kennedy, and that they wanted him to work his way in there, find out what was going on, and put a stop to it because it could reflect very adversely on Russia and could make it look like the Communists were behind the thing. And they didn't want to run that kind of risk. So, he was sent to New Orleans where he made contact with a man whom he claimed he had known from U.S. intelligence over in Japan. And that was Lee Harvey Oswald! They met in Jackson Square. And, of course, here's Nagle posing as a KGB agent, so he can't very well just say: "Hey, I'm really one of you," because he knows that Oswald is a guy whom he had know in Japan, but he hadn't known him that well. And besides, who knows what had gone on in the intervening years? So I'm sure he was probably still trying to maintain his cover. But he basically told Oswald that Oswald was in a very dangerous situation, and that he thought that Oswald thought he had penetrated a pro-Castro plot to kill the President. But, in reality, he was mixed up with anti-Castro Cubans who were posing as pro-Castro Cubans, and who were involving him in this plot to kill the President. He said that he got a very negative reaction from Oswald; kind of like: Oh, yeah? That's interesting; and a don't-call-me-I'll-call-you type of attitude. Now, what's interesting here is that this gets into the whole issue of: Was the Oswald in New Orleans and the Oswald in Dallas -- was this the real Lee Harvey Oswald? And it gets into a bizarre series of situations. But there is plenty of evidence to suggest that the Oswald in New Orleans in the summer of `63 and in Dallas later that fall was NOT the same Oswald who entered the Marines. And if that's the CASE -- assuming that that may be true -- this explains the whole situation with Nagle and Oswald. Nagle is very circuitously trying to warn Oswald, believing that this is the same guy he knew in Japan, and that he would recognize him and realize that he was getting the information from U.S. intelligence. And yet, if it was NOT the same Oswald -- and there is MUCH evidence to suggest that this is so -- then Oswald in New Orleans didn't recognize Nagle, didn't know who he was, and only perhaps knew him as a KGB officer, and therefore, would be very hesitant to believe him or to act on his information. So that's the Nagle story, and I think it pretty well pinpoints the role of Oswald. Oswald, as his mother and his wife had both publicly stated, was a U.S. Government agent. He was posing as a pro-Castroite and as a pro-Communist to infiltrate groups that he felt were pro-Communist groups. In this instance, I think he had been picked up by one of the more violent anti-Castro groups who played him along and helped set him up as the "patsy" in the assassination. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please help to disseminate it by posting it to other bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass-media's thirty-year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo