Date: 02-07-93 (06:16) Number: 142 of 325 To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: JOHN DINARDO Read: (N/A) Subj: Part 33, PACIFICA RADIO I Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: US_JFKCONSPIR (193) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk From: jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (John DiNardo) Subject: Part 33, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 13:34:43 GMT I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) GARY NULL: And the oilmen were favored friends of Lyndon Johnson. JIM MARRS: That's true. They hated Kennedy because Kennedy had already made one attempt to, and was still talking about doing away with the 27-and-a-half percent oil depletion allowance, which is the bedrock of oil money. What it is, basically, is the argument that oil is a finite resource. There's only so much of it under ground. And every time you pump it out, you're depleting your basic product, I guess you could say. And, as a result, they have a 27-and-a-half percent (at that time) oil depletion allowance, which basically meant that they did not have to pay taxes on 27-and-a-half percent of the money they made off of oil. How would YOU like to be able to pass on almost 28 percent of your income, and not have to pay taxes on it? That would help you out considerably. Wouldn't it? [JD: On this point, it's also important to know that in Kennedy's first year as President, one of the three major steel companies -- I think it was Bethlehem Steel -- pulled the commonly used trick of being the first company, in collusion with all the others, to hike the price of steel and thus, to establish an excuse for all the other steel companies to hike their prices. Well, John F. Kennedy forced the steel companies, by some means, to roll back their prices. That was an extraordinary achievement on behalf of the American consumer which has probably never been done before or since by any of the corporate-owned Presidents of the United States. That deed alone focused upon John Kennedy the hatred of the barons of big business.] GARY NULL: Do you have any knowledge of Howard Hughes as "Mr. X", and the suspicions surrounding his involvement in the assassination? Howard Hughes, according to information I've got, was considered to be "Mr. X" by operatives from the CIA, by some anti-Castro Cubans, and by some of the right-wing paramilitarists. JIM MARRS: As an intermediary. Well, let me say that in 1963 I was still a little unclear on how powerful Hughes actually was, and on how much he was actually running his empire. There is good evidence to believe that he had already begun to be controlled and to be operated. He was a recluse. Nobody saw him. And there is good reason to believe that he may not have been in total control of his empire. BUT, Robert Mayhue was. Robert Mayhue, at that time, was basically running Howard Hughes's empire. And Robert Mayhue had ties to both Organized Crime and to the CIA. And I may point out .... Again, I think that this is incredibly important: Robert Mayhue was also tied into "Operation Mongoose". GARY NULL: Now, is Robert Mayhue alive today? JIM MARRS: Yes, he is. GARY NULL: What is he doing today? JIM MARRS: I have no idea what he's doing. He appears on programs now and then. GARY NULL: Was he ever challenged on these ties? JIM MARRS: Oh, heavens. No, there's never been any hard-nosed investigation of all this because the Government has always maintained that it was just Oswald. GARY NULL: Alright. So, we only have this as supposition, and we have to acknowledge that it is merely supposition .... JIM MARRS: Well, I would say this. I would say that if there is any one person still alive today who probably knew and knows how all of this was pulled together, I think Robert Mayhue would be a good candidate. GARY NULL: Alright. But, again, we do not know that for a fact. We merely have to, in fairness and objectivity ..... [tape ending] Did he have any connection to Organized Crime, and what was his knowledge of the Kennedy Assassination. We must, in fairness and objectivity, keep it as purely something that is a projected supposition without concrete evidence. JIM MARRS: Oh, there's no concrete evidence that he participated in the conspiracy to kill Kennedy. I'll be the first to admit that. BUT, he himself .... and there has been tons written about him. He definitely was connected into the ..... In fact, he was the intermediary who put the Mafia people in touch with the CIA for their assassination plots. That's been documented. That's been stated. Okay? That's been nailed down by the Government. He also, of course, was in charge of the Howard Hughes empire, which is well documented as being a front for the Central Intelligence Agency. So, he was right in the thick of all of that. And, as I've said, he was also part of "Operation Mongoose". That has been publicly stated. So, I think he's the guy who could give us some answers, if he would talk, and talk truthfully, and talk extensively, something that, apparently, he has not done to date. GARY NULL: Now, let's take one more look here and try to put this into a context. We have certain members of Organized Crime who certainly could have played a role in providing the actual assassins. JIM MARRS: Well, of course, about Organized Crime, there's really not any doubt about all of that. The FBI was operating as it should, and was keeping tabs on Organized Crime chieftains. Had them wire-tapped. Had them followed. Had informants, inside their organizations, reporting back. And each and every one of them, at some point, threatened the life of President Kennedy. I think, obviously, the ones who are most important to us would be Sam Giancana, the Mob boss of Chicago, who apparently helped pull votes for Kennedy in the 1960 election, and then who also was dating and going to bed with Judith [Campbell] Exner at the same time that she was slipping into the White House and having an affair with John Kennedy. So that puts him in pretty close contact. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please help to disseminate it by posting it to computer bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass media's thirty year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo The episodes of this and other series can be retrieved via anonymous ftp from the site: red.css.itd.umich.edu Log in with name "anonymous" or "ftp" and supply your e-mail address as the password. The files are kept in the directory /poli/Essays/Conspiracy Instructions for ftp retrieval are dependent upon what sort of system the user is on. On a UNIX machine, at the command prompt, type the following: ftp red.css.itd.umich.edu This may be different on IBMs and Vax systems. Date: 02-07-93 (06:16) Number: 143 of 325 To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: JOHN DINARDO Read: (N/A) Subj: Part 33, PACIFICA RADIO I Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: US_JFKCONSPIR (193) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Archivist: Paul Southworth, pauls@css.itd.umich.edu