Claims By RG Being Repeated

Claim: The variations of copper in WCC/MC lead come from microsegregation
Response: False. While there is certainly microsegregation of copper in this lead, the variations of copper in actual WCC/MC samples show that something else is controlling its abundance.

Claim: Guinn misunderstood the variations of copper because he didn't understand microsegregation.
Response: False. See previous response.

Claim: You can't understand the groupings of fragments without being authorities on elemental metallurgy.
Response: False. Metallurgy is not required for this task, and in fact has generated the wrong answer in this article.

Claim: RG used cross sections from two WCC/MC bullets to show that there is no difference between them and the hundreds of other types of bullets that they have analyzed.
Response: False. They have not done this type of cross-sectioning on other bullets. Their claim, such as it was, was based on other, very general considerations and not supported in their paper.

Claim: RG's conclusion that there is nothing special about MC lead is "devastating" to Rahn/Sturdivan.
Response: RG may conclude that, but they have not shown it with actual elemental data. In fact, the available data show the opposite, that MC lead is different from most others, just as Guinn claimed.

Claim: The samples analyzed by Guinn were too small to adequately characterize MC lead.
Response: False. The consistent log-normal distribution of antimony for all four batches shows the opposite.

Claim: The photomicrographs of grain structure in the MC lead show that the elemental data for the fragments are subject to serious doubt.
Response: False. The entire suite of data for the fragments shows that grain structure does not detectably affect the elemental concentrations in the fragments.

Claim: Sturdivan does not know that Guinn's 14 test bullets are a random sample of the four million rounds.
Response: False. (a) Random samples are those that are taken without sampling bias from the available population. (b) The overlapping log-normal distributions for antimony from the four lots show that the samples were effectively random.

Claim: Rahn speculates that the MC bullets were mixed in a ridiculously thorough fashion before they were shipped.
Response: False. No assumptions here. The actual data show that the 14 samples properly represented the lots.

Claim: Rahn/Sturdivan ignore national standards for selecting samples.
Response: False. This is not an assembly-line process where you can pick and choose. You have to use the available samples, and they are shown to be properly representative.

Claim: Rahn/Sturdivan are inferring a population from a nonrandom sample.
Response: False. See the above responses.

Claim: The bullet data are inconclusive.
Response: False. They offer solid answers, to the 3% level at worst and to one in a million at best.

Claim: The low levels of antimony and silver in MC lead are common in other ammunitions.
Response: True, and Guinn acknowledged this.

Claim: Therefore the analysis can't eliminate a host of other bullets as having produced the fragments.
Response: False. The statistical treatment does that, to 3% at worst and one in a million at best.

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