Rahn/Sturdivan's Behavior

Claim: Larry Sturdivan also speaks for Ken Rahn.
Response: False. Larry has his own mind, although we agree on most things.

Claim: We are both afraid to publicly face Randich and Grant because they both have Ph.D.s.
Response: False. We have said repeatedly that science is not done in public debates, especially in charged atmospheres.

Claim: We made errors in our papers because we didn't grasp the relevant metallurgy.
Response: False on two counts. Our papers are not wrong, and metallurgy is not necessary for getting the right answers about the fragments.

Claim: Rahn's declination to appear in public against Randich and Grant doesn't help his reputation.
Response: Silliness. I gave my reasons, and Larry agreed with them. Science isn't done by public debate.

Claim: Ken Rahn won't provide a substantive response to the metallurgical claims in RG's paper.
Response: False. So much for trying to guess the future.

Claim: The only thing we accomplished was to stimulate others to try to disprove us.
Response: False. We got the right answer first, and then we stimulated others.

Claim: "Poor Ken and Larry never stood a chance."
Response: False. We got the right answer, and the new guys blew it.

Claim: Rahn did not name the "revisionists."
Response: True. We didn't have to.

Claim: Don't hold your breath for a detailed response from Rahn.
Response: False prediction. (a) It's here. (b) These things take time if they are to be done right. Science should not be done in knee-jerk fashion.

Claim: Since we say the RG paper is so bad, will we be writing a letter to the Journal of Forensic Science to set the record straight?
Response: Almost certainly. We may also request that the paper be withdrawn.

Claim: Please explain the metallurgical expertise that Larry and I have.
Response: We are not experts in metallurgy, but we don't have to be in order to get the right answer. That is the good news.

Claim: Others can only trust your answers if you have proper metallurgical credentials.
Response: False. The errors of Randich's metallurgical argument give the lie to that idea.

Claim: Our credentials need to be superior to those of Randich, Grant, and Cliff Spiegelman (statistics) if we expect people to believe our findings.
Response: False. What is this thing about credentials all the time? They are nice, but hardly definitive. There is more than one way to the right answer.

Claim: We need to explain the metallurgical basis for our conclusions.
Response: False. You need to know *how* the elements vary in the lead. The *why* part is optional.

Claim: You need to know which experts in metallurgy back up what you say.
Response: False again. We can be right even if no metallurgical experts back us up. That seems to be the case here.

Claim: Explain why the last two paragraphs in RG are wrong.
Response: Happy to do that. See this entire critique.

Claim: You need to circulate your response so that everyone can see it.
Response: Right. That is why I am posting it on my Web site.

Claim: Ken will likely argue that the FBI data show that fragments from close together in a bullet will have a lower overall analytical uncertainty.
Response: Nonsensical. The writer evidently does not understand "analytical uncertainty."

Claim: Erik Randich is a metallurgist of high repute, whereas Rahn/Sturdivan are not.
Response: Irrelevant. (1) Credentials do not guarantee a correct explanation. (2) Randich got the wrong explanation in spite of his credentials.

Claim: RG have no opinion on conspiracy, whereas Rahn/Sturdivan do.
Response: Irrelevant.

Claim: What are the chances that "Warren loyalists" and "anti-conspiracists" Rahn and Sturdivan would agree to an open discussion with RG, etc.?
Response: Pure agitprop. We have given our reasons for declining many times already.

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