Subject: Re: Why Win Scott Exaggerated In 'Foul Foe'
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:18:06 GMT
From: arp@southern.co.nz (Tony Pitman)
Organization: Southern InterNet Services
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:58:59 GMT, Jerry <jerry98@my-deja.com> wrote:

>In article <20000116151219.18567.00000722@ng-fb1.aol.com>,
>  stugrad98@aol.com (Stugrad98) wrote:
>> The answer to this question is simple
>>
>> 1)  Win Scott wanted to alienate the people who were paying his
>pension
>>
>> 2)  He wanted to alientate whatever friends he had in his previous
>place of
>> work
>>
>> 3)  He wanted to be hauled before Congress to get the third degree on
>what
>> happened in Mexico City and why it conflicted with the CIA's official
>position
>>
>> 4)  He wanted to be lambasted by the public for not speaking out when
>he worked
>> for the Agency.
>>
>> These are all easy sacrifices to make, especially because the book
>would be a
>> runaway bestseller, after all, acknowledging that the CIA actually
>did it's job
>> in Mexico City.  With such an exciting plot,  Scott would be the next
>Danielle
>> Steele.
>
>-Stu,
>
>Regardless of his reasons, Chap 21 is totally inconsistent with the
>historical record and with the recollections and testimonies of the
>officers who served in Mexico City.
>
>Take Ambassador Tom Mann. Scott says he briefed Mann on every detail of
>Oswald's visit - as it was occurring.
>
>Yet, Mann never heard of Lee Oswald until after the assassination.
>
>That's a fact, Stu.
>
>Jerry

I'm glad you brought that up Jerry.
I'll tell you what he really said when talking to Dick Russell

He said, "I dont think the United States was very forthcomming to me
about Oswald. The great puzzle for me is why J. Edgar Hoover would
say, 'Leave it alone.' "
He was told by Hoover, "We dont want to hear any more about this case.
And tell the Mexican government not to do any more investigating. We
just want to hush it up."
Mann also told Russell, "The spy world is very bizarre, you don't know
what to believe or not. Even talking to our own people, I was never
quite sure, because they deliberately cover up and mislead sometimes."
When asked if he had been privy to the intelligence related activities
going on in Mexico City Man replied, "I dont know the answer to that
truthfully. I was briefed from time to time. I think with Win Scott
there and an FBI man there too, we had very brief staff meetings every
day. Just so I could get a feel of what was going on. But the caveat
with all CIA men is, if you're smart you never know whether you're
being told something or fed something. Frankly I think that anybody
who wasn't aware that any CIA person might be disguising his status
was naive. I mean, it's really a bizarre world, a different world, a
make believe world."
"Yes it was a very strange outfit in those days. They're sort of
inoculated and I don't think they'll come clean with anyone outside
the CIA. If they didn't take the vaccination they didn't last very
long. Very starnge things happened to people in that service. I had an
official of the same service (CIA) working for me when I was
ambassador to Salvador, earlier. Several ministers, or wives of
ministers, were complaining that the man wasn't normal sexually. And I
reported that, because I thought it should be reported. He was
recalled to Washington immediately - and allegedly committed suicice
right away. I always had a guilty concience about that. I didn't think
a fellow should be shot for whatever his sexual preference was. Well,
either he died right away or was killed, I dont know what happened to
him
Then Mann added, "But that was one of the things that make me
suspicious about Win Scott dropping dead like he did.
When asked why Mann said, "Well, I always suspected he might have been
murdered..

Here is something else about Scott that Mann told Russell and which I
have been trying to point out to you recently altho I had forgotten
half of it.

Scott was known as a "string saver." He never threw anything away.
And James Flannery said about him, "Win had the old FBI way, I
understand, of keeping files. By name. You created a file every time
someone's name came up. Christ, there in mexico City, pretty soon you
had files proliferating all over the place. In the mid sixties, I
think it was, we went to a centralised computer system in the agency,
where the station would mesh with the central files back at Langley
instead of being on an independant track. Well, Win wouldn't play. And
it drove them crazy back at headquaters. He just went on with his own
filing system. Then after he retired there was a great flushing out of
the stations files and resetting them up."

Of course Scott did not leave them all behind did he. His family knew
of the four filing cabinets containg his most closely held secrets in
his den.
His son Michael said that an ex-CIA official had told him that
"certain people" had come to visit Win when he was bedriden after his
backyard fall and the CIA man expressed strong doubt to Michael that
his fathers death had been an accident.

Scott was well known for running his own private ops while Head of
Station down there and even continued in the business in a private
capacity after his retirement.
Amabassador Mann said, "When you get involved in that sort of thing,
one is not surprised, if you know that world, when people drop dead
real quick. I wouldn't want to write life insurance policies on some
of the people I've known who were connected with that organisation
(CIA).

So there is a more complete idea of Ambassador Mann's real feelings
about what he was told by Scott and what he thought of the agency as a
whole Jerry.

Tony